Comments on: The Ortega Question http://riverplate.theoffside.com/team-news/the-ortega-question.html News from River Plate Argentina football team Wed, 18 Nov 2009 02:38:00 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Nolan http://riverplate.theoffside.com/team-news/the-ortega-question.html#comment-3841 Nolan Sun, 22 Jun 2008 23:36:23 +0000 http://riverplate.theoffside.com/team-news/the-ortega-question.html#comment-3841 Looks like Ortega is set to leave... Honestly I think it's for the best. He will be missed, of course, but rewarding his actions is not the way to build a team. Looks like Ortega is set to leave…

Honestly I think it’s for the best. He will be missed, of course, but rewarding his actions is not the way to build a team.

]]> By: Mauro http://riverplate.theoffside.com/team-news/the-ortega-question.html#comment-3838 Mauro Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:23:54 +0000 http://riverplate.theoffside.com/team-news/the-ortega-question.html#comment-3838 Firstly, I think we can all agree that when Ortega is healthy, he is head and shoulders better than anyone we currently have in our lineup. I think his story is going to begin or end with him doing some hardcore rehab. Period. Should he decide to do the rehab, I'd venture to say that his career is all but over because the sort of rehab he requires is going to take a lot longer than just a few weeks. I'd even venture to say that his ensuing depression could lead him into the arms of another Argentine club that would put up with his antics while getting his genius one out of four matches. Should he decide to play through it, we'll get more of what we've gotten thus far. An afore mentioned one great performance every four matches he starts and Simeone's patience will be tested until his contract is up and he leaves for greener pastures. Which, all in all, may not be a bad idea for us as a club as I'm not completely convinced his style and strategic philosophy really meshes completely with the club's style and strategic philosophy. I always thought he would have been a better fit at Boca than at River. It's no secret that Simeone took this job in order to show that he can manage a big side with the long term view of getting picked up by a team somewhere in Europe. Should he decide to leave it could be the best for both parties. He's had a tepid reception as a strategist and his constant fumbling to find the right line up has more than few people on the fence about him as a coach as it is. Personally, a coach who after 18 matches still doesn't found his best back three or four, I still question his ability as a manager. Still, we'll have to wait and see how it plays out. I'd love to see the fit Ortega on the pitch since, like I said earlier, he is head and shoulders more talented and has a better vision of the field than anyone else we've got. But we won't get the fit Ortega unless Aguilar puts a scare in him, which with this new contract, is only rewarding him for being a dipshit. Firstly, I think we can all agree that when Ortega is healthy, he is head and shoulders better than anyone we currently have in our lineup. I think his story is going to begin or end with him doing some hardcore rehab. Period.

Should he decide to do the rehab, I’d venture to say that his career is all but over because the sort of rehab he requires is going to take a lot longer than just a few weeks. I’d even venture to say that his ensuing depression could lead him into the arms of another Argentine club that would put up with his antics while getting his genius one out of four matches.

Should he decide to play through it, we’ll get more of what we’ve gotten thus far. An afore mentioned one great performance every four matches he starts and Simeone’s patience will be tested until his contract is up and he leaves for greener pastures.

Which, all in all, may not be a bad idea for us as a club as I’m not completely convinced his style and strategic philosophy really meshes completely with the club’s style and strategic philosophy. I always thought he would have been a better fit at Boca than at River.

It’s no secret that Simeone took this job in order to show that he can manage a big side with the long term view of getting picked up by a team somewhere in Europe. Should he decide to leave it could be the best for both parties. He’s had a tepid reception as a strategist and his constant fumbling to find the right line up has more than few people on the fence about him as a coach as it is. Personally, a coach who after 18 matches still doesn’t found his best back three or four, I still question his ability as a manager.

Still, we’ll have to wait and see how it plays out. I’d love to see the fit Ortega on the pitch since, like I said earlier, he is head and shoulders more talented and has a better vision of the field than anyone else we’ve got. But we won’t get the fit Ortega unless Aguilar puts a scare in him, which with this new contract, is only rewarding him for being a dipshit.

]]> By: Mark http://riverplate.theoffside.com/team-news/the-ortega-question.html#comment-3837 Mark Sun, 15 Jun 2008 18:57:24 +0000 http://riverplate.theoffside.com/team-news/the-ortega-question.html#comment-3837 No player is bigger than the club and his indiscretions are going to cause disharmony in the team if the other players see him as being treated differently. He needs to be given a final warning, if he relapses again, ship him out. I really hope it doesn't come to that. No player is bigger than the club and his indiscretions are going to cause disharmony in the team if the other players see him as being treated differently.

He needs to be given a final warning, if he relapses again, ship him out.

I really hope it doesn’t come to that.

]]> By: Christian http://riverplate.theoffside.com/team-news/the-ortega-question.html#comment-3836 Christian Sun, 15 Jun 2008 01:16:43 +0000 http://riverplate.theoffside.com/team-news/the-ortega-question.html#comment-3836 Well it looks like Diaz might be on his way to Mexico to coach America. A terrible move IMO. I imagine Simeone will stay on and leave when his contract expires. Well it looks like Diaz might be on his way to Mexico to coach America. A terrible move IMO. I imagine Simeone will stay on and leave when his contract expires.

]]> By: Tim http://riverplate.theoffside.com/team-news/the-ortega-question.html#comment-3835 Tim Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:53:04 +0000 http://riverplate.theoffside.com/team-news/the-ortega-question.html#comment-3835 What an absolute joke and another reason for me to hate the fat man. Who the f*ck does he think he is? This is comparable to letting Nelson Rivas leave on a free to Inter Milan when he was quite clearly a beast of a defender..... just not at left back. Simeone can go to Spain, I for one won't miss him, and it would also pave the way for Diaz to come home just so long as his sons don't follow. As for Ortega, you obviously can't replace him with a like for like player because he's quite simply a genius, but I don't like him. He's getting no sympathy from me simply for being an alcoholic. None at all. Get rid of him. What an absolute joke and another reason for me to hate the fat man. Who the f*ck does he think he is? This is comparable to letting Nelson Rivas leave on a free to Inter Milan when he was quite clearly a beast of a defender….. just not at left back.

Simeone can go to Spain, I for one won’t miss him, and it would also pave the way for Diaz to come home just so long as his sons don’t follow.

As for Ortega, you obviously can’t replace him with a like for like player because he’s quite simply a genius, but I don’t like him. He’s getting no sympathy from me simply for being an alcoholic. None at all. Get rid of him.

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